Bill Ward talks about the musically steps he has taken outside of Black Sabbath, why he has plenty of crazy ideas but couldn\'t complete anything, how he couldn\'t identify as a drummer at one time, and how his outlook towards drumming has completely changed the last couple of years.

Another topic is about Bill Ward\'s first drum lessons ever at the age of fifty. Reveils the drummer:

\"I even went to a drum teacher for the first time. When I was fifty years old I kind of had cap-in-hand and felt quite ashamed of myself, and I went to Roy Burns and I asked Roy if he could teach me drums. He kind of had a smile on his face and he said, \'Well, you pretty much know how to play drums already, I think.\' And I told him I didn\'t consider myself to be a drummer. If anything I consider myself to be an orchestrated drummer. I define that. But, man, Roy gave me some written stuff to learn. Oh man, I found it so awkward, so hard to read. (...) You know, I\'m clueless. I\'m absolutely clueless, yet I can play with a band and just feel the musicians and just play to wherever it\'s got to go, and that\'s something that just comes absolutely natural to me. So, I don\'t get it.\"

At one moment Bill Ward stopped looking at what he couldn\'t play and started to focus on what he could do and could do well. Continues Bill Ward:

\"All the envy, all the anger that I felt, has all dropped away. It\'s nonexistent. I have such an open mind and a complete enjoyment for any drummer. (...) I try to look at drumming with humility and in doing so, I see the musician and I see the heart and I have no jealousy, or envy, or anything else. I feel like I can really, really listen to a drummer whether he is 96 years old or six years old, and I give the six-year-old just the same amount of credit that I would the 90-year-old because they are in the same process of achievement as drummers. So my outlook towards drumming has completely changed.\"

Read the entire interview at AllAboutJazz.com.